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one secret at a time prepare yourself as

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we explore the shadow worlds of

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suppressed history secret knowledge

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forbidden religion and shine a light on

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welcome to night vision radio hey

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everybody welcome to night vision radio

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I'm your host Renee Barnett looking very

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forward to tonight's show because well

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number one I got a couple of good

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friends with me tonight to help tell

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these wild stories wild the true and

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what we're going to be looking into

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tonight as you may have noticed from

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some of the promo material is the alien

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autopsy special that was aired on Fox

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television lately people have been

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asking me about that again and asking if

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there's any new information on it and it

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sort of sparked me to thinking that I

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should probably look into that and then

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I started thinking I actually know a few

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people that worked on that show and so I

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have called upon one of those these guys

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they don't want to talk about this but I

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was able to twist one Emmy award-winning

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Hollywood producers arm to come on and

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share some and as much as we can wrench

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out of him

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about the alien autopsy about how it was

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produced what was real what was it real

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you know we're gonna see what we could

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get out of him I can't guarantee but I

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do know he is going to reveal some

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things to us now that got me thinking

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that we are actually the alien autopsy

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of course sprang out of the 1947 UFO

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crash incident at Roswell New Mexico and

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the alien bodies that were purportedly

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retrieved from that crash and so I

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started thinking you know it's been a

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while since we've addressed Roswell and

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we really ought to kind of get some

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background on that a little bit before

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we get started and also I have invited

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Lynn Buchanan who was the with the US

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but he also has interviewed some of the

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Roswell witnesses himself so he's got

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some information to share on both of

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those fronts and what you may remember

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about the crash was it happened in 1947

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sometime early in July and there was a

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farmer by the name of Max Brazel who

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information that he had found all this

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debris on his ranch and the sheriff in

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field himself for the first time so I

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think what it might be good to do is to

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the material city saw and the debris

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field now this is going to be about a

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he couldn't feel you had anything in

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much you had nothing in your hands it

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back cigarettes but the thing about that

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that before and as a brass as of now I

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all the tools used in aircraft and or

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air travel this is nothing like that it

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mystery about the subject that there's

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information that he gathered himself

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from some of those Roswell witnesses Len

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that you interviewed the funeral

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that the army had ordered some small

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caskets from him so can you tell us what

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you talked to him about and what did he

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several times to you know visit Glenn

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and Walter Walter Haut and we basically

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time and we were just sitting there you

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know shooting the bull and I don't know

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crash except you know when he was out on

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the museum floor but in his office the

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conversation came around to where he

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just said the crash yeah it was real and

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that's something he would not say out on

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the museum floor to to the public but he

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actually two of them and but that he did

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see the debris he did see the crash site

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but to witness the crash itself no I

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anything like that no no I've never

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heard of that I mean out here I had a

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show host the other day include you know

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talking about the paranormal and

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included UFOs and that's sort of a joke

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and you know out here if you don't want

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to see a UFO don't look up to say that

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the UFOs are paranormal know they're

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there they're normal they're there I

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mean you know you look up you see them

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that's amazing now and of course you

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there you go there's probably been a lot

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of crashes out there I know there has

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been one there have been I think five

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witnessed but the most people and in

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that's right I remember that and in

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of the desert and they just they just

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happen to cross the wreckage on that

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nobody really knew about it I forget the

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name of the Messiah

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there is town there is one over near

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Fort Worth Texas but you know it's it's

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not that uncommon and crashes are not

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that uncommon or sightings crashes yeah

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sightings are very common yeah there's a

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dairyman who lives in Roswell who was

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telling me the other day that at least

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two or three times a week he will be out

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like at 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning

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delivering milk and he'll look up and

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he'll see them over there he's lived in

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Roswell his entire life and he says I

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know a plane when I see one and those

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aren't planes and yeah they're they're

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not uncommon and and the crashes have

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happened there have been more than just

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Roswell well now you know you were

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talking about Walter Haut now I I know

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home director and I think I shared with

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you earlier that back in 1996 when I was

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working at strange universe on strange

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universe the television series I

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accidentally discovered a new Roswell

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witness and he was the accountant on the

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army base and his bit was he talked

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and he had records of paying for small

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coffins which I guess he got from Glenn

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Dennis's funeral home and and dry ice

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which was interesting I guess to

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preserve so when you talked with

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did he give did he talk at all about his

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experience or he did but I don't want to

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really take his words and and what about

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you know that's you should enter you

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should interview Glenn very interesting

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very knowledgeable and and actually very

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open

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you think you'd come on probably I will

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definitely have him on

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I will definitely everyone now you I

286
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know that you know I asked you I said

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you know when I called you and I said

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hey you know I cannot imagine that you

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are a member of your team have not

290
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remote viewed the Roswell crash yes of

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course we did course we did yeah you've

292
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got to understand that we have like

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hundreds of practice targets and drawn

294
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randomly and so I was only there for one

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time when when that was drawn as the

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practice target oh let me add again we

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were as a military unit we were asked

298
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with military jobs we were never

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officially tasked with UFOs or et's

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officially being the main word here but

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yeah this in this session the viewer who

302
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has an extremely high accuracy rate

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normally in the 90s ninety percent you

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know described this operating room and

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he said he said I don't know what this

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is they're operating on he said I'm

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gonna call it a dog but this is the

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ugliest dog I have ever seen and and he

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you know disc

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the the the cutting open of the dog and

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he said it's dead and and he he went

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through the operation of course which

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was an autopsy and they were operating

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on a dead being which he decided had to

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be the ugliest dog you'd ever seen in

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his life and of course he was absolutely

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blind to the target we when we target

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when we give a target too remote to a

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controlled remote viewer we just say you

320
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know this is target 97 oh three oh four

321
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it's basically they just get a number a

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target number and it's view the target

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and then they just go they go with no

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information whatsoever absolutely none

325
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yeah that's amazing that is amazing now

326
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what was the target was the target just

327
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the incident the target was on that one

328
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was actually the autopsy oh okay okay

329
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and well it was actually the operating

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room on the night of the suspected

331
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autopsy oh I can and you know if we had

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assumed that there was a real PT there

333
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that would have actually polluted his

334
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session so it was the target was the

335
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activity in the operating room on that

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night and and of course he didn't know

337
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that he just got some numbers but we had

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it written down that that was the the

339
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target and what he described was an

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autopsy of the ugliest dog in the world

341
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now have you come to in a conclusion or

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an opinion about that incident yourself

343
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what do you well yeah

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from Walter I mean I had I had the

345
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opinion that yes it was true and in fact

346
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we were trying to buy land over there

347
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right they were the where the crash site

348
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was and it was bought out from under us

349
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by someone else

350
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but but yeah Walter said yeah it

351
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happened this is truth yeah now did he

352
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see you said he saw some of the

353
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materials did he have the same similar

354
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descriptions of the materials as major

355
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Jesse Marcel did the sort of magic foil

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type material and that the i-beams with

357
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the strange symbols I don't think he saw

358
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the i-beams I don't know he never

359
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mentioned that but the foil yeah and

360
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there had been some some microscopic

361
00:21:03,019 --> 00:20:58,529
studies of the foil and it seemed to be

362
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layered with precious gold silver

363
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platinum gold silver platinum and these

364
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microscopically thin layers and that's

365
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that's really all I know I you know I

366
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have become so accustomed well almost

367
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everybody out here would become so

368
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accustomed to the to the UFOs that we

369
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don't even think about them anymore I

370
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mean you look up once going over there's

371
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nothing you can do about it you know

372
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people get people get all bent out of

373
00:21:48,740 --> 00:21:42,480
shape over seeing a UFO but you know

374
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been there done that yeah after a while

375
00:21:57,169 --> 00:21:50,850
it's just business as usual like this

376
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yeah well do you ever get any videos no

377
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I don't I I keep thinking I should I

378
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I tried but one time but it was night

379
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and the camera just wouldn't pick up

380
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anything so I've never seen one glow

381
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like like you see and and you know on

382
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the TV shows and only no it's just uh

383
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just a big metallic object one time one

384
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of them was right over our house very

385
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large I mean you could see every detail

386
00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:35,309
on it and it was very low and what did

387
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it say it said well it was around it was

388
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saucer shaped you know and it was

389
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rounded on bottom I couldn't see the top

390
00:22:52,129 --> 00:22:49,860
but but you know it just stood there

391
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still for a long time and then it just

392
00:22:57,799 --> 00:22:55,529
took off yeah can I ask you what's the

393
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bottom of it did it have anything on it

394
00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:01,590
like you know any working moving parts

395
00:23:08,930 --> 00:23:04,860
or was it just smooth or it was it was

396
00:23:11,299 --> 00:23:08,940
both the uh and you know it was right

397
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over the house there was no downdraft of

398
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:17,610
any kind so but I mean there was it was

399
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it was very low and you could see every

400
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:24,509
detail on it but then it just you know

401
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:30,450
slowly drifted on off how how big was it

402
00:23:36,430 --> 00:23:32,970
well can you compare it to something the

403
00:23:45,049 --> 00:23:36,440
size of it I don't know how high it was

404
00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:45,059
but if it was if it was a thousand feet

405
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:45,870
off the ground

406
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I would have to say it was like 60 70

407
00:23:59,360 --> 00:23:55,919
feet wide oh but I don't know how how

408
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high it was right they could have been

409
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:01,320
twice as big and twice as high I don't

410
00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:04,110
know yeah the air out here is very clear

411
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:07,710
so looking out there's almost no way to

412
00:24:16,399 --> 00:24:13,919
tell distance yeah yeah so now did you

413
00:24:18,139 --> 00:24:16,409
do any it looked like you were very

414
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:18,149
interested in the subject matter if you

415
00:24:24,170 --> 00:24:19,410
were trying to bought property

416
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:24,180
there was that too yeah we wanted the

417
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:27,810
property we didn't there is a there's an

418
00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:29,760
old missile base underground missile

419
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:31,260
base on the property and that's what we

420
00:24:36,020 --> 00:24:35,010
were trying to buy oh I see I see so it

421
00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:36,030
really didn't have anything to do with

422
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:38,340
the crash no we didn't care about that

423
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:41,250
yeah oh I see all right yeah UFOs are

424
00:24:48,410 --> 00:24:45,870
just old hat to you anyway and yeah well

425
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:48,420
before I let you off the hook I'd like

426
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:52,770
to bring on my next special guest he is

427
00:24:58,580 --> 00:24:55,170
an Emmy award-winning Hollywood producer

428
00:25:02,240 --> 00:24:58,590
he is now retired and living deep in the

429
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:02,250
woods of the Pacific Northwest and I've

430
00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:05,520
agreed not to identify him by name but

431
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:16,760
yeah I knew you would enjoy that so I

432
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:19,140
wanted to bring you on so you could hear

433
00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:23,370
what he had to say but before I let him

434
00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:25,500
go you know certainly feel free if you

435
00:25:34,090 --> 00:25:28,140
have any questions for Lin just jump in

436
00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:34,100
at any time and yeah I was wondering

437
00:25:43,310 --> 00:25:38,600
just in your travels whether you've had

438
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,320
this may be the same you know heard the

439
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:44,880
same things I have which is that there

440
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:46,530
were a couple of crashes and that there

441
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,960
were a number of number of bodies and

442
00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:51,360
the debris field was actually fairly

443
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:53,910
large and also that it did did fly over

444
00:25:59,300 --> 00:25:57,690
a farm and that's how they got to the

445
00:26:01,460 --> 00:25:59,310
site really quickly as the farmer

446
00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:01,470
actually followed it out there and did

447
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:04,200
you ever get out of that that's what

448
00:26:11,060 --> 00:26:06,270
I've heard that the farmer took them out

449
00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:11,070
there and it's actually closer to Corona

450
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:18,020
New Mexico light it is to Roswell yeah

451
00:26:22,130 --> 00:26:20,250
out there because there's a there's a

452
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:22,140
crash now that I'm reminded of called

453
00:26:31,580 --> 00:26:26,610
crash at Corona that's which is a

454
00:26:33,290 --> 00:26:31,590
different one no I think that's it

455
00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:33,300
do you think that's the same crash

456
00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:36,600
yeah okay and of course you you go out

457
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:39,630
to Roswell and there are like five

458
00:26:45,740 --> 00:26:41,490
different companies that will take you

459
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:45,750
to the crash site and each company takes

460
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:47,460
you to a different place I mean if

461
00:26:56,180 --> 00:26:50,910
you're nervous you're gonna you're gonna

462
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:56,190
pay to go see desert then I also heard

463
00:27:01,970 --> 00:26:59,250
that the sheriff went out there and

464
00:27:04,550 --> 00:27:01,980
actually I into this I didn't believe

465
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:04,560
was the sheriff was Oh was taken out

466
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,490
there he came back to his family and had

467
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:10,080
a little wad of the foil

468
00:27:15,380 --> 00:27:13,710
yeah and that be the foil could be

469
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:15,390
bunched up in a little ball but as soon

470
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:17,580
as you put it on the table top it would

471
00:27:22,370 --> 00:27:20,370
it would it like mylar or something it

472
00:27:24,860 --> 00:27:22,380
would immediately stretch out into a

473
00:27:27,410 --> 00:27:24,870
flat plane yeah they couldn't they

474
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:27,420
couldn't couldn't couldn't do anything

475
00:27:32,330 --> 00:27:29,490
with this extremely resilient yeah

476
00:27:36,770 --> 00:27:32,340
that's what I've I've heard from a lot

477
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:36,780
of the people over there and em well tur

478
00:27:46,130 --> 00:27:43,110
and so on yeah couldn't burn it it was a

479
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:46,140
destructible and it would go always go

480
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:47,850
back to its original shape you could

481
00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:50,130
roll it up in a ball and it was just

482
00:28:00,050 --> 00:27:54,390
like liquid smooth back out just like

483
00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:00,060
silk yeah and you know kids yeah and you

484
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:02,760
know you couldn't you couldn't burn it

485
00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:04,770
which was amazing because I mean it was

486
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:06,630
just my Laura or whether we learned

487
00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:15,210
right Yeah right right but land before

488
00:28:20,810 --> 00:28:18,900
you go I want to give your website out

489
00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:20,820
at sea our viewer comm if I'm not

490
00:28:27,020 --> 00:28:23,400
mistaken that's right yeah I feel like

491
00:28:29,570 --> 00:28:27,030
me and go to New York and company is the

492
00:28:32,180 --> 00:28:29,580
best kept secret for great fashion at

493
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:32,190
amazing prices the new Holiday

494
00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:34,170
Collection has arrived in this weekend

495
00:28:39,710 --> 00:28:36,420
is the friends and family sale every

496
00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:39,720
single thing 50% off from holiday party

497
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:41,910
outfits that's sparkle to hundreds of

498
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:43,710
spectacular gifts starting at five

499
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:44,950
dollars they

500
00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:47,110
something for everyone including new

501
00:28:51,659 --> 00:28:49,240
arrivals from their exclusive celebrity

502
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:51,669
brands from Ava Mendes and Gabrielle

503
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:54,100
Union hurry and check out the best deals

504
00:28:57,870 --> 00:28:55,809
of the year from New York and company

505
00:29:00,090 --> 00:28:57,880
and its website check it out he has a

506
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:00,100
lot of interesting information there as

507
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:02,440
well as some pretty cool art work that

508
00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:05,610
he's done thank you

509
00:29:11,129 --> 00:29:09,100
34 new pictures to it you know I saw

510
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:11,139
that you posted that and I haven't been

511
00:29:14,190 --> 00:29:12,490
over to look at them yet but I'm

512
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:14,200
definitely gonna do it because I was on

513
00:29:19,169 --> 00:29:17,080
there a couple weeks ago and was looking

514
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:19,179
at all of them and I was thinking hmm

515
00:29:23,639 --> 00:29:21,130
are these from remote viewing sessions

516
00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:23,649
you know is he coming up with these from

517
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:25,630
actually some of them are and a couple

518
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:29,679
of them are times when I have asked

519
00:29:39,509 --> 00:29:33,490
people to Remote View what I was going

520
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:39,519
to paint a week or two later and not

521
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:41,440
show me their sessions and I wouldn't

522
00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:43,200
even think of what it was gonna paint

523
00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:45,820
until a week or two later and then I

524
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:48,580
would start painting and then look at

525
00:29:54,899 --> 00:29:51,190
their predictions and amazing number of

526
00:29:58,409 --> 00:29:54,909
people would accurately predict what

527
00:30:02,639 --> 00:29:58,419
you're going to paint you know wild

528
00:30:05,789 --> 00:30:02,649
that's so wild that stuff really works

529
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:05,799
they tell you you know I I wish I had

530
00:30:11,399 --> 00:30:09,730
the focus and the diligence to learn how

531
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:11,409
to do it myself but I know it takes a

532
00:30:16,289 --> 00:30:14,559
lot of time and a lot of training it

533
00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:16,299
does it takes a lot of practice yeah

534
00:30:20,639 --> 00:30:18,760
absolutely yeah I know I know people

535
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:20,649
that have gone through that training and

536
00:30:25,379 --> 00:30:22,960
they worked they really really worked

537
00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:25,389
but if you if you want it you do the

538
00:30:31,379 --> 00:30:28,600
work that's it that's it but bland I

539
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:31,389
want to thank you so much for joining us

540
00:30:38,159 --> 00:30:34,720
tonight and you're invited me yeah yeah

541
00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:38,169
and come back again soon I'll think of

542
00:30:44,340 --> 00:30:40,120
another reason to drag you back on how

543
00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:44,350
about that good okay give our regards to

544
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,080
Linda take care thank you yeah we're

545
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:49,360
gonna go for a quick break and when we

546
00:30:56,469 --> 00:30:50,690
come back

547
00:31:03,060 --> 00:31:00,789
I think it was bad sensitive these guys

548
00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:03,070
are extremely organized and they never

549
00:31:09,099 --> 00:31:06,580
did anything they didn't have to do and

550
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:09,109
when you can you know you hear the the

551
00:31:14,979 --> 00:31:10,849
nature of the program you can just think

552
00:31:18,729 --> 00:31:14,989
about it it's quite quite an exercise so

553
00:31:20,919 --> 00:31:18,739
it was a need-to-know operation I mean

554
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:20,929
it reminds me of the military because

555
00:31:25,930 --> 00:31:23,570
the military really compartmentalizes

556
00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:25,940
these kind of you know top secret

557
00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:29,929
operations that they do and it's you're

558
00:31:33,099 --> 00:31:31,700
exactly ready to need-to-know basis you

559
00:31:35,589 --> 00:31:33,109
only know the part that you need to

560
00:31:38,649 --> 00:31:35,599
don't to do your job and that's what it

561
00:31:41,229 --> 00:31:38,659
sounded like here now I had a little bit

562
00:31:44,859 --> 00:31:41,239
of background with this alien autopsy

563
00:31:47,649 --> 00:31:44,869
because I was the managing editor of UFO

564
00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:47,659
magazine back in the 90s and during I

565
00:31:55,719 --> 00:31:49,700
think it was think it was my last year

566
00:31:59,109 --> 00:31:55,729
there we received a VHS copy of a very

567
00:32:02,769 --> 00:31:59,119
strange video very strange piece of film

568
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:02,779
it looked like a very old film and it

569
00:32:12,129 --> 00:32:08,330
was purporting to be footage of an alien

570
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:12,139
body undergoing an autopsy back in the

571
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:19,039
1940s and that videotape was sent to the

572
00:32:22,269 --> 00:32:21,289
research director of UFO magazine who

573
00:32:28,719 --> 00:32:22,279
was Don Ecker

574
00:32:33,639 --> 00:32:28,729
and by Ray Santilli from England and Don

575
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:33,649
Ecker in turn called Bob caveat who as

576
00:32:39,369 --> 00:32:35,929
as you know it was the executive

577
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:39,379
producer of alien autopsy but he was a

578
00:32:43,869 --> 00:32:42,320
producer in in town and he was known to

579
00:32:46,930 --> 00:32:43,879
Don I think they'd worked together

580
00:32:48,969 --> 00:32:46,940
either on a project or maybe developing

581
00:32:50,229 --> 00:32:48,979
some projects I don't know if they came

582
00:32:54,249 --> 00:32:50,239
to fruition or not but they knew each

583
00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:54,259
other so Don reached out to Bob Bob came

584
00:33:00,909 --> 00:32:57,679
they met Bob took the tape and actually

585
00:33:03,379 --> 00:33:00,919
ran with it unfortunately he totally

586
00:33:07,129 --> 00:33:03,389
blew Don off

587
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:07,139
and left him in the dust really not very

588
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:10,529
nice and went on to produce this major

589
00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:14,849
major Fox television special and then

590
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:16,409
they went and then they did a follow up

591
00:33:21,379 --> 00:33:18,779
that basically debunked the special so

592
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:21,389
it's kind of confused everyone over the

593
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:24,329
decades now what was real what wasn't

594
00:33:29,539 --> 00:33:27,450
real was any of it ever real then there

595
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:29,549
was a major motion picture that was made

596
00:33:37,069 --> 00:33:34,049
a feature film that funny enough you and

597
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:37,079
I saw together a few years ago with

598
00:33:43,940 --> 00:33:39,329
along with some other pals of ours from

599
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:43,950
from the TV business and we're basically

600
00:33:50,989 --> 00:33:47,369
the story was and you can correct me

601
00:33:54,349 --> 00:33:50,999
here anytime that there really was some

602
00:33:56,629 --> 00:33:54,359
footage in the beginning but there was

603
00:34:01,699 --> 00:33:56,639
either damage to it or it was too dark

604
00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:01,709
to be usable on television so some of it

605
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:03,719
was real some of it wasn't real or all

606
00:34:10,909 --> 00:34:06,570
of it was fake or what what can you tell

607
00:34:17,089 --> 00:34:10,919
us about the veracity of the story at

608
00:34:20,180 --> 00:34:17,099
all the bottom line for me is that and

609
00:34:22,249 --> 00:34:20,190
the irony of it all is that something

610
00:34:25,279 --> 00:34:22,259
and you know sacred like portrayed in

611
00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:25,289
the movie where they had to just sort of

612
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:27,529
put this together you know on a

613
00:34:38,899 --> 00:34:32,970
shoestring actually came from a very

614
00:34:44,499 --> 00:34:38,909
real place and I had an experience to

615
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:49,220
probably 2 to 3 years before anybody

616
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:52,049
even heard about you know any an autopsy

617
00:34:54,799 --> 00:34:53,129
anything at all

618
00:34:58,039 --> 00:34:54,809
since three years before that I was I

619
00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:58,049
was asked to be ready to go down to

620
00:35:05,539 --> 00:35:01,740
Florida and he was a man and they called

621
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:05,549
the cameraman yep who had this footage

622
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:09,930
and that I would be prepared to fly down

623
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:14,400
there meet with this guy you know secure

624
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:17,130
the footage view the footage

625
00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:19,380
and either bring it back or arrange you

626
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:21,870
know arranged it as an emissary those

627
00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:23,910
are two it's two years before any of

628
00:35:28,690 --> 00:35:27,120
this started so and then it kind of went

629
00:35:31,570 --> 00:35:28,700
away I didn't really hear about it

630
00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:31,580
afterwards you know they just said now

631
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:34,590
somebody's come up we don't need to go

632
00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:37,440
down there the text okay no problem

633
00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:39,660
because these are the you know the

634
00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:40,620
people I was working with they're

635
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:42,540
they're good friends good business

636
00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:44,010
partners and we're always doing things

637
00:35:52,370 --> 00:35:50,220
for each other right now you know so

638
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,380
they honor NIMH at all is that not only

639
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:54,960
you know that I hear this is people

640
00:35:58,010 --> 00:35:56,280
anybody who's again was going to make it

641
00:36:02,660 --> 00:35:58,020
a special or doom anything where they

642
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:02,670
just heard it was footage and in quite

643
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:06,320
dramatically so and not to tell anyone

644
00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:11,070
now you go you go ahead and time a

645
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:13,320
little further and all of a sudden now I

646
00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:15,630
hear that they didn't get a hold of the

647
00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:21,900
footage and you know that I want to you

648
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:24,630
know see it and what did I think of it

649
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:28,260
well what I thought of it is it totally

650
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:30,840
pass the smell test for me I was

651
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:35,910
astounded because I was seeing something

652
00:36:45,890 --> 00:36:40,610
that looked to me to be a time-specific

653
00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:45,900
in you know 1947 the handwriting they

654
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:49,950
had a number of samples of things in

655
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,410
this sort of a field tent which I was

656
00:37:00,440 --> 00:36:58,320
told was out in the desert where they

657
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,450
was like a little base camp next to the

658
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:01,920
debris field where they were bringing

659
00:37:07,220 --> 00:37:04,440
things in like an archaeological dig and

660
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:07,230
they were cataloging and shipping them

661
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:11,310
out and someone was was taking place

662
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:13,470
with us well the handwriting that they

663
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:17,010
had on all the tags reminded me of my

664
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:19,650
grandfather's handwriting you know a

665
00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:23,510
type the type that I saw you know when

666
00:37:28,130 --> 00:37:26,520
old ladies were like 85 when sight would

667
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:28,140
sign their name you know it's like a

668
00:37:30,830 --> 00:37:29,970
different type of handwriting you know I

669
00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:30,840
mean right

670
00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:33,870
and that it's written with ink I mean

671
00:37:37,940 --> 00:37:35,820
it's written with the fountain ink that

672
00:37:40,460 --> 00:37:37,950
used to be back in those days you know

673
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:40,470
there were multiple ten you know back in

674
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:44,010
1947 alright you know if they did they

675
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:46,250
were you know then put it put a typical

676
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:49,290
they were using you know the old almost

677
00:37:53,780 --> 00:37:51,810
ink and quill you know was you can have

678
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:53,790
any other kid and it would have a has

679
00:37:59,000 --> 00:37:56,610
like a sharp a metal point and you would

680
00:38:02,780 --> 00:37:59,010
dip it into the inkwell I might with it

681
00:38:06,590 --> 00:38:02,790
now okay all of the tags were written

682
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:06,600
with this kind of ink with that kind of

683
00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:11,280
handwriting and to me it just it totally

684
00:38:18,020 --> 00:38:13,350
smacked as being a hundred percent real

685
00:38:21,290 --> 00:38:18,030
I was shocked because it was creepy you

686
00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:21,300
know it was creepy to see that yeah yeah

687
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:22,920
and I know that the you know I remember

688
00:38:30,410 --> 00:38:25,170
looking you know at some of that footage

689
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:30,420
and looking at every detail in that

690
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:32,910
little operating room or whatever that

691
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:37,590
was and the clock the phone everything

692
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:42,930
was appropriate for the time period and

693
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:47,520
another thing we had we had Stan Winston

694
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:51,470
the famous you know special effects guy

695
00:38:57,380 --> 00:38:55,020
look at the footage and we had him on

696
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:57,390
our radio show back then I was doing a

697
00:39:02,090 --> 00:38:58,770
show with Don Ecker

698
00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:02,100
and the actor Dwight Schultz called UFOs

699
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:05,700
tonight this is many years ago and we

700
00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:09,420
had Stan Winston on talking about the

701
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:13,350
alien autopsy footage and we had the we

702
00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:16,530
had the pathologist Cyril Wecht

703
00:39:25,010 --> 00:39:19,590
who did the autopsy on President Kennedy

704
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:25,020
and other famous autopsies and they both

705
00:39:32,930 --> 00:39:31,110
on the show said it looks real Stan

706
00:39:34,670 --> 00:39:32,940
Winston said if it's special-effects

707
00:39:38,590 --> 00:39:34,680
it's the best I've ever seen

708
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:38,600
and you know it was it was quite amazing

709
00:39:47,060 --> 00:39:44,520
so from that far as far as I can call

710
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:47,070
was from the original VHS tape that dawn

711
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:51,290
received from from Ray Santilli so now

712
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:56,220
you probably saw more of it than I did

713
00:40:01,490 --> 00:39:58,110
because I think what we had was just a

714
00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:01,500
sample of what it was because I think

715
00:40:08,330 --> 00:40:04,920
there was a how long was you know in

716
00:40:12,110 --> 00:40:08,340
duration was that original film footage

717
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:12,120
do you recall you know I I couldn't give

718
00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:18,300
you how long it's not that long it's you

719
00:40:21,950 --> 00:40:19,740
know I don't know where in order in our

720
00:40:24,740 --> 00:40:21,960
45 minutes something like that it is in

721
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:24,750
you know the small small snippets and

722
00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:30,480
bits and pieces and it was like a it's

723
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:32,280
like a field camera it was a field

724
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:34,580
camera and getting bits and pieces of

725
00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:38,250
diamonds archival this document you know

726
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,950
use for our an archiving sense it wasn't

727
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:42,960
done you know to look good you know

728
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:50,010
right were there other things on the

729
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:52,590
footage you know like part of it was

730
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:54,930
alien on us part of it was to other

731
00:41:02,870 --> 00:40:59,040
stuff no it was all from it was all from

732
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:02,880
the hospital there was several there was

733
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:04,770
several there were several bits of

734
00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:07,140
footage and there from different

735
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,240
locations you know they have the actual

736
00:41:12,890 --> 00:41:11,520
you know they had the autopsy itself

737
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:12,900
that was one segment they had another

738
00:41:19,820 --> 00:41:17,130
segment that was in this field tent and

739
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:19,830
oddly enough some of that is used in the

740
00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:24,710
Fox special the field tent footage or

741
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:27,420
some of the film tent footage is used in

742
00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:34,490
the Fox special about six minutes yeah

743
00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:39,080
and that you know you can you can see

744
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:42,840
that that's what it looks very much like

745
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:46,530
old film footage the way it plays I mean

746
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:48,960
there's a there's a liquidity to film

747
00:41:53,570 --> 00:41:50,820
and then it's in that business

748
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:53,580
I know I know what's the video versus

749
00:41:58,730 --> 00:41:56,070
tone what's like has an original source

750
00:42:01,730 --> 00:41:58,740
and that was definitely

751
00:42:08,060 --> 00:42:01,740
a negative print source it was not a

752
00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:08,070
video source so that right there I you

753
00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:11,430
know it was starting to look very much

754
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:17,070
of the time it was low light it was you

755
00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:20,880
know the place was not lit for any kind

756
00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:23,070
of production or anything along those

757
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:24,780
lines it was somebody with a camera in

758
00:42:32,090 --> 00:42:29,220
the room using available light so it was

759
00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:32,100
you know fairly dark and they were just

760
00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:35,190
alone any what they had to it ever

761
00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:37,590
question for you from the chat room from

762
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:41,820
oculus says has anyone analyzed this

763
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:45,330
film to date it do you know if that was

764
00:42:57,260 --> 00:42:52,680
done as far as as far as I know that

765
00:42:59,690 --> 00:42:57,270
that was actually verified it was very

766
00:43:07,070 --> 00:42:59,700
very was that that was 16 millimeter

767
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:07,080
film yes yeah to my knowledge is 16 it

768
00:43:12,530 --> 00:43:09,810
might have been 8 I don't know but it's

769
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:12,540
what they had at the time and you know

770
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:13,950
most movies are in under the time was

771
00:43:23,330 --> 00:43:18,740
she was shot in 16 you know you know and

772
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:23,340
35 didn't come in till the 50s Wow

773
00:43:30,859 --> 00:43:28,470
and someone say Neutron says that it

774
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:30,869
might have been something about that

775
00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:32,910
that the alien might have still been

776
00:43:41,090 --> 00:43:38,100
alive and so people are wanting to know

777
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:41,100
if it was alive I don't believe that I

778
00:43:59,630 --> 00:43:56,210
believe that it was okay so in the film

779
00:44:01,580 --> 00:43:59,640
what happened was that some of the

780
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:01,590
footage was unusable because it was

781
00:44:06,830 --> 00:44:03,750
damaged or too dark or something like

782
00:44:12,650 --> 00:44:06,840
that is that what it was and so some of

783
00:44:14,810 --> 00:44:12,660
it was was recreated like you know

784
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:14,820
you know how the movie how the movie is

785
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,220
and I'm sure a lot of the people they're

786
00:44:21,610 --> 00:44:19,200
listening it you know saw the film the

787
00:44:25,490 --> 00:44:21,620
alien autopsy feature yep

788
00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:25,500
you don't want those lines you know

789
00:44:33,950 --> 00:44:32,040
that's in effect what happened you know

790
00:44:38,330 --> 00:44:33,960
it's just the irony is the stuff was

791
00:44:42,770 --> 00:44:38,340
real hmm yeah that's that's the big

792
00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:42,780
takeaway since that was real yeah I mean

793
00:44:48,290 --> 00:44:45,840
I I mean I was you know I was 2 years

794
00:44:50,810 --> 00:44:48,300
before he had this happen I was I was

795
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:50,820
asked you know like I said to go down

796
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:53,040
and look at this stuff this was not this

797
00:45:00,080 --> 00:44:56,850
is a long time coming you know it was it

798
00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:00,090
was real his real footage and and and

799
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:05,820
then seeing it I went oh yeah I was

800
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:08,250
super intrigued 9 I mean I gotta say I

801
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:09,930
mean I'm coming from a position of being

802
00:45:17,570 --> 00:45:15,530
a believer you know I'm a Roswell always

803
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:17,580
you know it smell right to me

804
00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:19,650
and if everything all the interviews

805
00:45:27,410 --> 00:45:22,830
that I saw on everything I ran on it so

806
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:27,420
this was in step with that what struck

807
00:45:36,110 --> 00:45:31,710
me when we were talking in our

808
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:36,120
pre-interview yesterday you said it

809
00:45:41,690 --> 00:45:38,940
struck me you said I came away from the

810
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:41,700
project believing it believing that it

811
00:45:49,010 --> 00:45:44,010
was real you know it convinced me what I

812
00:45:51,140 --> 00:45:49,020
saw convinced me that it was real as

813
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:51,150
soon as I saw the footage you know the

814
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:53,370
footage and you know the 10 footage I'm

815
00:45:59,810 --> 00:45:55,050
talking about with the old handwriting

816
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,820
and so on and somebody you know I'm not

817
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:01,920
at liberty to discuss everything I saw

818
00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:02,490
in it

819
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:06,270
sure and of course they didn't use they

820
00:46:11,420 --> 00:46:08,910
didn't use a lot in that special and

821
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:11,430
original Fox special because the stuff

822
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:16,410
was too sentiment and you know there was

823
00:46:21,470 --> 00:46:19,830
luck there was I I get here that it

824
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:21,480
wasn't destroyed but they couldn't use

825
00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:24,720
it because it was too sensitive what

826
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:26,040
could have been more sense

827
00:46:31,610 --> 00:46:28,710
than seeing an alien you know cut into

828
00:46:33,530 --> 00:46:31,620
on a laying on a table what could have

829
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,540
possibly been more sensitive was it

830
00:46:40,820 --> 00:46:36,000
identifying information or something

831
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:40,830
like that well it's it's it's past that

832
00:46:47,330 --> 00:46:44,910
it's this detect it's some technological

833
00:46:50,690 --> 00:46:47,340
stuff that the military did not want

834
00:46:53,210 --> 00:46:50,700
anybody to know oh okay okay

835
00:46:56,180 --> 00:46:53,220
so we've kind of been revealing some

836
00:46:59,560 --> 00:46:56,190
military secrets not really not

837
00:47:04,520 --> 00:46:59,570
necessarily associated with the alien

838
00:47:08,390 --> 00:47:04,530
right me alien the alien was you know

839
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:08,400
that was a huge story but it wasn't the

840
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:12,000
whole story of what they of what was was

841
00:47:18,260 --> 00:47:16,230
picked up out of that crash side yeah I

842
00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:18,270
mean it's to the world of large that's

843
00:47:24,830 --> 00:47:19,860
going to be that's going to be the huge

844
00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:24,840
story but as far as the military was

845
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:31,380
concerned but there was technology there

846
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:36,240
was some engineering there was a lot of

847
00:47:43,070 --> 00:47:41,010
things that they were able to give to

848
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:43,080
glean from that you know from that crash

849
00:47:45,830 --> 00:47:44,610
site and they didn't want anybody to

850
00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:45,840
know about it and that's why that's

851
00:47:51,230 --> 00:47:48,740
cover-up put it immediately up

852
00:47:53,390 --> 00:47:51,240
immediately up they did you got to

853
00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:53,400
realize in 47 it's the first time

854
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,040
anything like that ever happened and

855
00:48:02,060 --> 00:47:58,400
that's why I've made it into the paper

856
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:02,070
yeah I didn't hate like just a regular

857
00:48:05,870 --> 00:48:04,050
reporting because it is you know it did

858
00:48:09,290 --> 00:48:05,880
placing a meteorite went down outside of

859
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:09,300
town or something you know yeah yeah but

860
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:11,370
then all of a sudden all the sudden I

861
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:14,310
mean here's this huge cover-up and it's

862
00:48:21,350 --> 00:48:16,470
like are you buying any of this I do

863
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:21,360
that but it doesn't dry let it boil

864
00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:26,450
come on what were people had out there

865
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:31,740
so as for me as an enthusiast you know

866
00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:34,470
and they didn't know I was they didn't

867
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:37,380
know that I was in appear that I was you

868
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:39,630
know a UFO believed

869
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:43,200
whatever this is always interesting now

870
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:45,510
for I was a from the project I wasn't

871
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:48,480
predicated you know so anyway then I

872
00:48:55,790 --> 00:48:51,170
asked you you said you were a believer

873
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:55,800
had you had any UFO sightings or

874
00:49:02,240 --> 00:48:59,280
experiences to cause you to believe or

875
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:02,250
was it just the idea that it would be

876
00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:03,720
ridiculous to think that we were the

877
00:49:09,350 --> 00:49:05,990
only ones in the entire universe that

878
00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:09,360
exists when there are millions and

879
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:11,220
billions of other planets that are much

880
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:12,570
older than we are and there's probably

881
00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:14,850
much more advanced civilizations out

882
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:17,160
there than we are because we're a fairly

883
00:49:25,570 --> 00:49:21,450
new new system that we live in is that

884
00:49:31,130 --> 00:49:25,580
it or did you have your own experiences

885
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:31,140
if you said I was good yeah I saw you

886
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:34,200
know I saw some things some rotating red

887
00:49:42,590 --> 00:49:40,140
lights I grew up I grew up in an area

888
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:42,600
that had a large Air Force Base in

889
00:49:50,180 --> 00:49:48,180
Southern California and there were some

890
00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:50,190
nights where we would sleep see things

891
00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:51,990
out there but we would say in close you

892
00:49:57,580 --> 00:49:53,460
know helicopters something else like

893
00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:57,590
that but it didn't have any sound and

894
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:00,480
you know as a kid I must have been about

895
00:50:09,110 --> 00:50:03,660
ten you know it sort of sticks with you

896
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,120
I was leptin I was going up up in the

897
00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:12,720
mountains and and looked up and saw this

898
00:50:23,170 --> 00:50:20,760
and just went wow okay well and then you

899
00:50:27,260 --> 00:50:23,180
know there was a book that was called a

900
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:27,270
UFO serious business oh yeah I do

901
00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:30,210
remember that book it's like a primer

902
00:50:35,180 --> 00:50:32,430
for every 12 year old yeah

903
00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:35,190
so after after that you kept looking up

904
00:50:39,830 --> 00:50:38,040
all the time and and you know I agree

905
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:39,840
with you I mean the other part of it was

906
00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:42,210
just the logic it's like it was it had

907
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:45,180
to be I just I just thought that we you

908
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:46,710
know it happens in my lifetime you know

909
00:50:53,090 --> 00:50:49,730
I'd love to see that happen yeah a

910
00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:53,100
little more about interdimensional

911
00:51:00,580 --> 00:50:55,020
interdimensional travel now it starts

912
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:00,590
making even more sense yeah absolutely

913
00:51:05,530 --> 00:51:03,300
well the bottom line sometimes I was

914
00:51:11,020 --> 00:51:05,540
excited to see this footage because I

915
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:11,030
you know I had hoped it was good yeah I

916
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:14,310
can imagine you must have been dying to

917
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:20,130
tell everyone yes well you know it's it

918
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:23,010
was a seat you know a secretive

919
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:24,480
operation that people have trusted each

920
00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:25,950
other and that trust is something you're

921
00:51:31,820 --> 00:51:27,870
still honor that's why I can't go with

922
00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:31,830
my name stuff like that right just to

923
00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:33,540
this day I mean you know here we are you

924
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:37,400
know 20 years 20 some odd years later

925
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:40,730
and nobody's ever gone public really

926
00:51:48,380 --> 00:51:44,910
right that's a pretty strange that's

927
00:51:51,830 --> 00:51:48,390
right yeah nobody's been very cool about

928
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:51,840
it but I was it was a you know it was a

929
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:53,940
fun experience for everybody and and

930
00:52:01,460 --> 00:51:59,490
also it was so serious experience yeah

931
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:01,470
what did some of the other people like

932
00:52:06,350 --> 00:52:03,810
the editors and people like that that

933
00:52:08,990 --> 00:52:06,360
we're working on you know looking at

934
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:09,000
that footage you know every single day

935
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:12,330
for hours on end what did they have to

936
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:14,610
say about it were they convinced did

937
00:52:21,590 --> 00:52:17,850
they did anyone sort of was anyone sort

938
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:21,600
of disturbed by it no I don't know

939
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:26,370
because I wasn't on that maybe you know

940
00:52:30,830 --> 00:52:27,690
and I think it's a real personal thing

941
00:52:32,780 --> 00:52:30,840
yeah yeah I don't you know I don't know

942
00:52:34,250 --> 00:52:32,790
me the guys that edited the Fox special

943
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:34,260
I don't know what they thought you know

944
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:36,510
there's no there's not a doc I mean you

945
00:52:43,820 --> 00:52:38,880
know maybe the Navy they were struck by

946
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:43,830
it maybe not yeah I know the Capri was

947
00:52:49,210 --> 00:52:45,330
taken by and I'm hearing on the radio

948
00:52:52,310 --> 00:52:49,220
I'm just going wow it's in the lexicon

949
00:52:54,970 --> 00:52:52,320
it really is it really I mean everybody

950
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:54,980
knows what the alien autopsy is I mean

951
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,200
you normally you hear it you hear people

952
00:53:05,180 --> 00:53:01,440
making a joke and using that term and

953
00:53:06,620 --> 00:53:05,190
it's just you're right as pop culture it

954
00:53:09,859 --> 00:53:06,630
really is in the lexicon

955
00:53:11,539 --> 00:53:09,869
you know it is bottom of the hour and we

956
00:53:14,930 --> 00:53:11,549
are going to take another quick break

957
00:53:19,059 --> 00:53:14,940
and when we come back more with our

958
00:53:22,009 --> 00:53:19,069
award-winning Hollywood insider and

959
00:53:24,859 --> 00:53:22,019
secrets from the alien autopsy and

960
00:53:30,019 --> 00:53:24,869
questions from the chat room stay with

961
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:30,029
us about and I don't know if you if you

962
00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:31,890
know the answer to this but we talked

963
00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:33,750
about you know what that you had

964
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:35,940
identified I know we're on the phone

965
00:53:42,859 --> 00:53:39,569
yesterday at 6 minutes in there is some

966
00:53:46,670 --> 00:53:42,869
of the original footage from the 16

967
00:53:49,609 --> 00:53:46,680
millimeter film the original film of the

968
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:49,619
alien autopsy and I think that was you

969
00:53:59,660 --> 00:53:53,970
said in the 10th in that particular one

970
00:54:02,930 --> 00:53:59,670
now do you know X what spots or is there

971
00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:02,940
a way to identify as you know if we want

972
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:04,619
to go on YouTube and look at the alien

973
00:54:11,029 --> 00:54:08,609
autopsy special where the actual real

974
00:54:13,370 --> 00:54:11,039
footage is used as opposed to the

975
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:13,380
footage that was recreated to match up

976
00:54:20,749 --> 00:54:17,910
with the real footage well 10 can be

977
00:54:23,809 --> 00:54:20,759
seen little bits and pieces of it can be

978
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:23,819
seen about other than the first within

979
00:54:28,009 --> 00:54:26,160
the first 10 minutes there's no way all

980
00:54:29,299 --> 00:54:28,019
in the show didn't she mention it was

981
00:54:35,390 --> 00:54:29,309
six minutes and or something like that

982
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:35,400
yeah yeah there is some background and

983
00:54:39,620 --> 00:54:36,750
it's been a while some text in the show

984
00:54:41,029 --> 00:54:39,630
but there's a real kind of dark so they

985
00:54:44,359 --> 00:54:41,039
just black and white it's a little

986
00:54:49,849 --> 00:54:44,369
smudgy and they're showing they're

987
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:49,859
showing a little like little bits of

988
00:54:56,990 --> 00:54:55,410
metal and control little pieces that

989
00:54:59,539 --> 00:54:57,000
look like some sort of a control that's

990
00:55:04,249 --> 00:54:59,549
been broken up as it's all debris and

991
00:55:06,829 --> 00:55:04,259
it's a debris collection out of which is

992
00:55:10,009 --> 00:55:06,839
I'm sure you know where they got the

993
00:55:11,390 --> 00:55:10,019
foil you know in the foil is just one of

994
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:11,400
the one of the many things they're

995
00:55:19,249 --> 00:55:14,220
collecting in there and it was you know

996
00:55:21,349 --> 00:55:19,259
was the dark tan it was lit with in some

997
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:21,359
places by

998
00:55:28,049 --> 00:55:25,089
torches and not electric lights because

999
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:28,059
they're out in the field and I don't

1000
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:29,529
think we even had a generator out there

1001
00:55:39,150 --> 00:55:32,049
yet maybe not I just know that it's not

1002
00:55:41,339 --> 00:55:39,160
lit not lit conventionally and and it it

1003
00:55:43,380 --> 00:55:41,349
looks like kind of like you know home

1004
00:55:44,729 --> 00:55:43,390
movies in a way I mean did you remember

1005
00:55:50,130 --> 00:55:44,739
it from the special you move when

1006
00:55:51,989 --> 00:55:50,140
talking about what that footage you know

1007
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:51,999
that we're talking about that in six

1008
00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:54,400
minutes and it's sort of dark and

1009
00:55:57,930 --> 00:55:56,440
they're showing you there's some you

1010
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:57,940
know how it looks like how do I fix you

1011
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:00,880
something on a on a steel bar and some

1012
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:02,529
writing and things like that well that's

1013
00:56:09,539 --> 00:56:04,690
that's taken from the footage I'm

1014
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:09,549
talking about yes there's even more

1015
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:14,799
footage in addition to that from you

1016
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:16,210
know another place in the tent

1017
00:56:23,759 --> 00:56:21,130
so is there also is it anytime we see

1018
00:56:30,029 --> 00:56:23,769
the tent footage is that the original or

1019
00:56:32,609 --> 00:56:30,039
is it just it parts the tent footage

1020
00:56:36,539 --> 00:56:32,619
that I saw at least in a special is

1021
00:56:47,509 --> 00:56:36,549
original all original now is any of the

1022
00:56:58,190 --> 00:56:51,719
that that's one of the areas I can't go

1023
00:57:02,880 --> 00:56:58,200
into I had a funny feeling about that oh

1024
00:57:05,099 --> 00:57:02,890
all right now I'm gonna I'm gonna ask

1025
00:57:06,660 --> 00:57:05,109
you a question that you another question

1026
00:57:08,690 --> 00:57:06,670
that you're probably not going to answer

1027
00:57:10,819 --> 00:57:08,700
but probably for a different reason

1028
00:57:13,380 --> 00:57:10,829
but I want to get it out there because

1029
00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:13,390
everybody's being so attentive in the

1030
00:57:18,299 --> 00:57:15,849
chat room I want to include some of the

1031
00:57:22,019 --> 00:57:18,309
questions that they have and this and

1032
00:57:25,499 --> 00:57:22,029
watch detective says do you if you know

1033
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:25,509
was the alien wearing a suit like some

1034
00:57:30,779 --> 00:57:27,910
of the stories have said or was it real

1035
00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:30,789
tissue I guess would you have any way of

1036
00:57:40,620 --> 00:57:35,549
knowing that the original cut

1037
00:57:42,660 --> 00:57:40,630
I've you know I I didn't I didn't have

1038
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:42,670
any any eyes on that so I couldn't tell

1039
00:57:46,890 --> 00:57:44,470
you but like I can just tell you from

1040
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:46,900
you know like another viewer you know I

1041
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,770
saw like anybody you know but it didn't

1042
00:57:54,779 --> 00:57:52,000
look like it suited me look like

1043
00:57:58,079 --> 00:57:54,789
Asheville you know actual tissue skin

1044
00:58:01,740 --> 00:57:58,089
tissue yeah absolutely absolutely look

1045
00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:01,750
like like a suit and Leslie in the

1046
00:58:09,150 --> 00:58:05,230
chatroom said has had had any of the

1047
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,160
people present at at the OP talks he

1048
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:12,880
come forward with their experiences that

1049
00:58:18,359 --> 00:58:13,690
we know of

1050
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:18,369
now was that cameraman ever contacted I

1051
00:58:25,349 --> 00:58:23,160
want to say he was in my recollection

1052
00:58:30,450 --> 00:58:25,359
yeah there's a lot of back and forth

1053
00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:30,460
with and he was very old and I think I

1054
00:58:34,170 --> 00:58:31,750
remember his name

1055
00:58:36,150 --> 00:58:34,180
I'm not going to say it on the air but I

1056
00:58:39,660 --> 00:58:36,160
I'm thinking I remember his name did he

1057
00:58:44,730 --> 00:58:39,670
in your memory did he have a Hispanic

1058
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:44,740
last name no not to my ears and he was

1059
00:58:49,549 --> 00:58:46,450
by now I didn't know that he was in

1060
00:58:52,109 --> 00:58:49,559
Florida in Florida okay

1061
00:58:55,529 --> 00:58:52,119
all right I might be thinking about two

1062
00:58:57,839 --> 00:58:55,539
different cameramen but you know maybe a

1063
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:57,849
cameraman New York and company is the

1064
00:59:02,970 --> 00:59:00,400
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1065
00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:02,980
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1066
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1067
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1068
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:10,539
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1069
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:12,730
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1070
00:59:17,339 --> 00:59:15,609
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1071
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:17,349
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1072
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celebrity brands from Ava Mendes and

1074
00:59:26,250 --> 00:59:24,369
Gabrielle Union hurry and check out the

1075
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:26,260
best deals of the year from New York and

1076
00:59:32,430 --> 00:59:27,609
company from a different a different

1077
00:59:34,589 --> 00:59:32,440
event but I do remember that there was a

1078
00:59:37,859 --> 00:59:34,599
cameraman he was still living at the

1079
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:37,869
time I don't know if he is today but he

1080
00:59:42,539 --> 00:59:40,270
was still living at that time now you

1081
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:42,549
never actually ended up making any

1082
00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:46,569
contact with him no no I wasn't in my

1083
00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:48,140
part of the production he

1084
00:59:53,020 --> 00:59:51,140
it was not it wasn't that far like I

1085
00:59:57,250 --> 00:59:53,030
said it was a it was compartmentalized

1086
01:00:00,850 --> 00:59:57,260
and out sourced and need to know right

1087
01:00:02,620 --> 01:00:00,860
right but you had said you had said that

1088
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:02,630
you had originally been asked to go to

1089
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:05,690
Florida but you put them that later got

1090
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:09,100
stalled so you never made that trip and

1091
01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:12,650
you came to see the footage by other

1092
01:00:22,990 --> 01:00:16,040
means it came from another yeah yeah

1093
01:00:25,690 --> 01:00:23,000
okay so if it's go away or I mean

1094
01:00:27,820 --> 01:00:25,700
because the people that worked on the on

1095
01:00:30,580 --> 01:00:27,830
the show did an excellent excellent job

1096
01:00:35,530 --> 01:00:30,590
especially you know of matching up

1097
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:35,540
everything now it's my understanding and

1098
01:00:43,150 --> 01:00:39,710
I do believe this that the the any of

1099
01:00:47,410 --> 01:00:43,160
the recreation that was done was not to

1100
01:00:50,890 --> 01:00:47,420
mislead but to actually mimic the

1101
01:00:53,260 --> 01:00:50,900
original footage it was to duplicate the

1102
01:00:55,630 --> 01:00:53,270
original footage and the reason it was

1103
01:00:58,810 --> 01:00:55,640
used instead of the original footage was

1104
01:01:01,420 --> 01:00:58,820
because it was not usable it was too

1105
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:01,430
dark it was damaged or something like

1106
01:01:08,290 --> 01:01:05,690
that but it was never the intent of the

1107
01:01:11,500 --> 01:01:08,300
show are the people working on it to

1108
01:01:19,570 --> 01:01:11,510
mislead anyone is that your

1109
01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:19,580
understanding yeah really well and that

1110
01:01:27,730 --> 01:01:25,550
footage is it is very detailed as soon

1111
01:01:30,070 --> 01:01:27,740
as you know I'm watching it because I

1112
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:30,080
mean it's some things you could just

1113
01:01:37,810 --> 01:01:34,850
couldn't think of okay in there yeah and

1114
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:37,820
you know I mean and I mean that's why I

1115
01:01:43,870 --> 01:01:41,570
honey in Stan Winston who is a legend

1116
01:01:47,860 --> 01:01:43,880
you know who has no reason to say

1117
01:01:52,570 --> 01:01:47,870
otherwise you know he was absolutely you

1118
01:01:54,790 --> 01:01:52,580
know it took it as bona fide himself and

1119
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:54,800
I've you know I've worked on films such

1120
01:02:00,400 --> 01:01:57,050
as the first Star Trek film and that

1121
01:02:01,190 --> 01:02:00,410
their jaws sound and I mean you know I

1122
01:02:03,050 --> 01:02:01,200
come from the special

1123
01:02:04,940 --> 01:02:03,060
thanks background also that would have

1124
01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:04,950
they would have stuck out like a sore

1125
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:09,480
thumb in a second yeah well I mean like

1126
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:11,850
I said you know stan winston's stand the

1127
01:02:17,390 --> 01:02:13,520
man himself

1128
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:17,400
the legendary special effects guy in in

1129
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:22,260
hollywood he said hey it looks real if

1130
01:02:29,570 --> 01:02:25,170
this is a special effect they are the

1131
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:29,580
best and so I mean if you could fool

1132
01:02:35,180 --> 01:02:32,880
Stan Winston you know I mean I would

1133
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:35,190
think he would know I would think he

1134
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:38,130
would know and Cyril Wecht you know

1135
01:02:44,180 --> 01:02:41,130
who's performed lots of autopsies yes

1136
01:02:47,210 --> 01:02:44,190
you know he caught me on the way the

1137
01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:47,220
tissue acted you know reacted to the cut

1138
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:51,840
and the whole thing he was convinced yes

1139
01:02:55,460 --> 01:02:53,610
that's that's what I'm talking about

1140
01:02:58,670 --> 01:02:55,470
me neither one of those men had you know

1141
01:03:00,590 --> 01:02:58,680
have a dog in the hunt no they had no

1142
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:00,600
reason in fact they had every reason not

1143
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:02,490
to say that because they could get

1144
01:03:11,810 --> 01:03:06,570
clapped out of the room reputations got

1145
01:03:13,820 --> 01:03:11,820
home so yeah exactly so just taking a

1146
01:03:15,620 --> 01:03:13,830
face value that's why it you know it's

1147
01:03:19,070 --> 01:03:15,630
held up over the years yeah

1148
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:19,080
it's there's people you know it doesn't

1149
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:21,570
strike them as being inherently false I

1150
01:03:28,940 --> 01:03:23,970
mean when you add it to the Roswell

1151
01:03:35,390 --> 01:03:28,950
details you know it's it's Max's were of

1152
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:35,400
reality really done well now max in the

1153
01:03:41,870 --> 01:03:38,640
chat room says if they have bodies or

1154
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:41,880
parts thereof have they done any DNA

1155
01:03:48,740 --> 01:03:45,510
testing to see if it has the same DNA as

1156
01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:48,750
we do well I'm sure we would never know

1157
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:51,630
that but I would guess that probably has

1158
01:03:57,860 --> 01:03:55,440
been done you know I think the debris at

1159
01:04:00,140 --> 01:03:57,870
least I don't know about the bodies but

1160
01:04:03,170 --> 01:04:00,150
were purportedly transported to

1161
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:03,180
wright-patterson Air Force Base after

1162
01:04:10,910 --> 01:04:06,480
they left Roswell

1163
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:10,920
so I can't imagine that they got rid of

1164
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:11,730
that body

1165
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:14,160
or those bodies because I know there

1166
01:04:18,329 --> 01:04:16,049
were multiple

1167
01:04:20,339 --> 01:04:18,339
coffins that were ordered I don't know

1168
01:04:24,269 --> 01:04:20,349
why they would order multiples if it had

1169
01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:24,279
just been one so you know I can't

1170
01:04:30,449 --> 01:04:28,150
imagine that wherever those bodies have

1171
01:04:33,419 --> 01:04:30,459
been stored there hasn't been further

1172
01:04:34,919 --> 01:04:33,429
testing as science has advanced but

1173
01:04:38,699 --> 01:04:34,929
they're not sharing that information

1174
01:04:40,949 --> 01:04:38,709
with us well I mean you you would think

1175
01:04:42,929 --> 01:04:40,959
right off the bat you know ordering

1176
01:04:45,089 --> 01:04:42,939
caskets give me a break you know

1177
01:04:47,549 --> 01:04:45,099
no when you think about it it's like

1178
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,559
they're out in this field they're you

1179
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:49,599
know they're probably a little crazed at

1180
01:04:53,130 --> 01:04:51,609
this point about what they have they

1181
01:04:57,870 --> 01:04:53,140
want to make sure that this gets back

1182
01:04:59,579 --> 01:04:57,880
you know you know unspoiled and they

1183
01:05:01,079 --> 01:04:59,589
don't have body bags out in the field

1184
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:01,089
they don't mean they didn't go in there

1185
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:03,910
with any of this so they got the first

1186
01:05:07,949 --> 01:05:06,130
thing they they macgyver'd you know how

1187
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:07,959
to get the bodies out and that was let's

1188
01:05:15,390 --> 01:05:11,529
put them in casket yeah but that meant

1189
01:05:17,489 --> 01:05:15,400
that that plays to me and I you know I'm

1190
01:05:20,429 --> 01:05:17,499
sure happy that they I'm sure they you

1191
01:05:23,279 --> 01:05:20,439
know every piece of tissue was was you

1192
01:05:25,890 --> 01:05:23,289
know was told on to Wow absolutely

1193
01:05:28,410 --> 01:05:25,900
15:8 testing that he didn't exist in 47

1194
01:05:29,849 --> 01:05:28,420
so that's right no but holding out of

1195
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:29,859
the tissue I'm sure that you know they

1196
01:05:35,339 --> 01:05:32,799
knew they'd have to in one way or

1197
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:35,349
another you know and then down the line

1198
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:38,410
you know as far as that test max I think

1199
01:05:44,009 --> 01:05:40,089
probably you know that test has been

1200
01:05:46,019 --> 01:05:44,019
done I would think so crossing that was

1201
01:05:48,689 --> 01:05:46,029
such a good question that's got me going

1202
01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:48,699
now somebody needs to investigate

1203
01:05:54,959 --> 01:05:51,670
whether or not there's any shred of

1204
01:05:57,599 --> 01:05:54,969
information on further testing that was

1205
01:06:00,799 --> 01:05:57,609
done after you know all these scientific

1206
01:06:03,479 --> 01:06:00,809
advances in DNA testing and all that

1207
01:06:05,699 --> 01:06:03,489
surely that's been done that there's no

1208
01:06:07,140 --> 01:06:05,709
way it wouldn't have been done you just

1209
01:06:11,309 --> 01:06:07,150
you couldn't convince me that it hasn't

1210
01:06:13,049 --> 01:06:11,319
been done it's really here's another

1211
01:06:14,939 --> 01:06:13,059
point of the day you know just judging

1212
01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:14,949
by the physics and just science as we

1213
01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:16,839
knew it about about you know the

1214
01:06:20,819 --> 01:06:18,969
universe is that we're doing with

1215
01:06:23,219 --> 01:06:20,829
certain elements on a helmet table

1216
01:06:24,929 --> 01:06:23,229
that's you know that's all part of the

1217
01:06:27,070 --> 01:06:24,939
Big Bang okay there's little bits the

1218
01:06:29,140 --> 01:06:27,080
whole universe is composed of the same

1219
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:29,150
I wouldn't be surprised that there

1220
01:06:37,089 --> 01:06:33,730
aren't you know DNA similarities between

1221
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:37,099
humans great and ourselves

1222
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:39,170
yeah or whoever you know where they were

1223
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:42,290
grazed or not I don't know but you know

1224
01:06:47,859 --> 01:06:44,330
those aliens and ourselves I would not

1225
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:47,869
be surprised well there's some there's

1226
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:50,000
something in conflict with the two of us

1227
01:06:58,839 --> 01:06:54,130
absolutely yeah yeah now Leslie is

1228
01:07:02,230 --> 01:06:58,849
asking if how can we see this footage

1229
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:02,240
down well actually you can see the alien

1230
01:07:08,109 --> 01:07:04,910
autopsy special on YouTube I know that

1231
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,119
but is there I wonder if there's a place

1232
01:07:15,339 --> 01:07:11,119
that has I doubt if there's anybody

1233
01:07:16,750 --> 01:07:15,349
that's separated out that footage and I

1234
01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:16,760
don't think there'd be any other place

1235
01:07:24,580 --> 01:07:20,720
to view it do you I haven't seen not for

1236
01:07:27,310 --> 01:07:24,590
someone can view it now no so if you

1237
01:07:30,820 --> 01:07:27,320
look at the alien autopsy special you

1238
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:30,830
will see original footage and you'll

1239
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:32,690
just have to try to pick it out yourself

1240
01:07:38,109 --> 01:07:36,410
yeah and that's well it's pretty plain

1241
01:07:41,380 --> 01:07:38,119
in it and there's a you know there's a

1242
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:41,390
good number of seconds of it so I mean

1243
01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:46,010
enjoy it because it's real guys enjoy it

1244
01:07:51,339 --> 01:07:48,950
yeah because that that's the real deal

1245
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:51,349
it's just the stuff that goes into more

1246
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:55,369
more detail which they couldn't use it's

1247
01:08:00,070 --> 01:07:57,170
too bad you can you know nobody can see

1248
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:00,080
that I wish people can see that because

1249
01:08:07,180 --> 01:08:03,170
it's it's pretty it's pretty extensive

1250
01:08:08,530 --> 01:08:07,190
and I know my job my job womp that

1251
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:08,540
doesn't happen often and you know

1252
01:08:15,070 --> 01:08:10,730
they're like you know involuntarily

1253
01:08:16,660 --> 01:08:15,080
drops I mean it was I had I had

1254
01:08:21,370 --> 01:08:16,670
butterflies watching that footage I

1255
01:08:22,950 --> 01:08:21,380
gotta tell you it was creepy well that's

1256
01:08:26,260 --> 01:08:22,960
amazing

1257
01:08:28,900 --> 01:08:26,270
yeah I sure appreciate you sharing what

1258
01:08:31,570 --> 01:08:28,910
you can and what you know what you feel

1259
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:31,580
comfortable with sharing because I don't

1260
01:08:38,410 --> 01:08:33,670
think anybody's ever done that before

1261
01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:38,420
come out and talk actual production well

1262
01:08:41,950 --> 01:08:40,430
I mean I can't you know I was so

1263
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:41,960
are minimized by ganna stay within the

1264
01:08:48,190 --> 01:08:43,310
sphere of the project I can't betray

1265
01:08:50,430 --> 01:08:48,200
that but I do want people to know that

1266
01:08:56,140 --> 01:08:50,440
if you if you're someone that believes

1267
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:56,150
that this happens then this is something

1268
01:09:01,570 --> 01:08:58,610
that will prove it that would get you

1269
01:09:04,180 --> 01:09:01,580
closer it's as close as you're probably

1270
01:09:06,370 --> 01:09:04,190
going to get nothing else comes to

1271
01:09:09,730 --> 01:09:06,380
something if something else comes down I

1272
01:09:12,430 --> 01:09:09,740
mean up here where I am we had a we just

1273
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:12,440
had a UFO encounter it was quite

1274
01:09:19,330 --> 01:09:16,480
extensive there was a they called it a

1275
01:09:22,180 --> 01:09:19,340
unidentified aircraft that was tracked

1276
01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:22,190
from the California border north to

1277
01:09:27,940 --> 01:09:25,580
Washington where it disappeared but is

1278
01:09:30,510 --> 01:09:27,950
being tracked by NORAD and being tracked

1279
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:30,520
by all the air traffic controllers and

1280
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:35,930
it was an odd shape and and you know the

1281
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:38,480
airliners and the pilots were all had

1282
01:09:45,370 --> 01:09:41,090
eye contact and then it was just gone

1283
01:09:47,830 --> 01:09:45,380
but that was just two days ago really

1284
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:47,840
yeah it was over it's in all the papers

1285
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:52,970
up here and also and so on I was on

1286
01:09:57,210 --> 01:09:55,370
YouTube I think I think there was a

1287
01:10:01,660 --> 01:09:57,220
small youtuber reported not quite share

1288
01:10:05,410 --> 01:10:01,670
but there was a craft that was down it's

1289
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:05,420
like 35,000 feet in via airliner

1290
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:10,850
airliner airspace and at the right the

1291
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:13,490
top of California

1292
01:10:17,770 --> 01:10:15,920
like Eureka Levis anyone a little

1293
01:10:20,290 --> 01:10:17,780
further that's where it was first seen

1294
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:20,300
and across over into Oregon went out the

1295
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:23,600
Willamette Valley and just before it got

1296
01:10:30,850 --> 01:10:26,210
to the Columbia River they lost track of

1297
01:10:35,530 --> 01:10:30,860
it Wow there they were tracking it for

1298
01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:35,540
you know for almost 20 minutes and had

1299
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:38,030
they had they had eyes on it as well and

1300
01:10:45,790 --> 01:10:43,210
from pilots did you envision what it was

1301
01:10:50,620 --> 01:10:45,800
did you hear a description of it you

1302
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:50,630
said they said it was an odd shape they

1303
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:54,320
said it was kind of triangular

1304
01:10:58,380 --> 01:10:56,570
look I can also had spins out to the

1305
01:11:00,430 --> 01:10:58,390
side so they thought it was an aircraft

1306
01:11:07,690 --> 01:11:00,440
but they just weren't seeing at the

1307
01:11:10,450 --> 01:11:07,700
right the right angle and to me here

1308
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:10,460
comes me the inner interdimensional

1309
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:13,040
argument coming back into play but why

1310
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:15,710
it just sort of pops out I mean I don't

1311
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:17,450
have you seen there's footage on YouTube

1312
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:21,170
of supposed portals that you can see it

1313
01:11:25,530 --> 01:11:23,570
is you know there's there's footage that

1314
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:25,540
they picked up of actual portals and

1315
01:11:30,610 --> 01:11:28,010
this one actually you know had to hit

1316
01:11:34,210 --> 01:11:30,620
one and go or else it would have been

1317
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:34,220
seen by 35,000 feet by commercial um you

1318
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:37,610
in pilot yeah it was being tracked and

1319
01:11:43,660 --> 01:11:39,170
there were scrambled jets and the whole

1320
01:11:45,340 --> 01:11:43,670
thing it was a big deal wow I'm gonna

1321
01:11:48,340 --> 01:11:45,350
have to look that up I'm sure there's

1322
01:11:52,450 --> 01:11:48,350
stuff on the internet about it yeah I

1323
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:52,460
had I never did an eight-track tip from

1324
01:12:01,140 --> 01:11:57,290
California to Washington there over

1325
01:12:05,740 --> 01:12:01,150
Oregon to Washington and then it just

1326
01:12:06,780 --> 01:12:05,750
popped out and everybody lost lost eyes

1327
01:12:14,230 --> 01:12:06,790
on it

1328
01:12:15,610 --> 01:12:14,240
triangular with fins I love it it just

1329
01:12:16,990 --> 01:12:15,620
depends on what angle they were looking

1330
01:12:20,980 --> 01:12:17,000
at it you know so it was actually a

1331
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:20,990
craft that had some seen some odd

1332
01:12:26,230 --> 01:12:24,890
quarters you know but they didn't know

1333
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:26,240
they they just they thought it was a

1334
01:12:30,910 --> 01:12:27,710
they thought wasn't thing keep calling

1335
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:30,920
it at the mystery aircraft which I

1336
01:12:35,860 --> 01:12:32,690
thought was unusual just you know

1337
01:12:37,330 --> 01:12:35,870
usually they're going with all the UFO

1338
01:12:41,050 --> 01:12:37,340
parlance let me call this a mystery

1339
01:12:43,210 --> 01:12:41,060
aircraft missing the reason was they

1340
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,220
thought it had you know ladies in the

1341
01:12:47,530 --> 01:12:44,960
tail that would look at it again it was

1342
01:12:49,630 --> 01:12:47,540
more like a triangle it and so I don't

1343
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:49,640
know yeah but but keep your eyes up men

1344
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:50,930
will keep catching under one of these

1345
01:12:56,530 --> 01:12:54,770
hey maybe so huh max in the chat room

1346
01:13:04,120 --> 01:12:56,540
said it sounds a lot like stealth

1347
01:13:05,740 --> 01:13:04,130
technology on steroids yeah well the

1348
01:13:07,930 --> 01:13:05,750
odds the odds are in our favor we're

1349
01:13:11,890 --> 01:13:07,940
going to we're gonna have contact here

1350
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:11,900
I just know it is stuff I'm around them

1351
01:13:15,580 --> 01:13:12,560
around

1352
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:15,590
yeah yeah well I gotta ask you just

1353
01:13:19,330 --> 01:13:17,449
before we close out the show I know

1354
01:13:21,490 --> 01:13:19,340
where you are up there in the woods in

1355
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:21,500
the Pacific Northwest I got to ask you

1356
01:13:26,430 --> 01:13:24,110
and I know that the Squatch detective in

1357
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:26,440
our chat room probably wants to know -

1358
01:13:35,020 --> 01:13:30,770
have there been any Bigfoot or Sasquatch

1359
01:13:36,729 --> 01:13:35,030
sightings in your area well just like

1360
01:13:40,209 --> 01:13:36,739
you know Lynne was talking about how

1361
01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:40,219
it's so common for UFOs down to Mexico

1362
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:43,100
up here it's very common with Sasquatch

1363
01:13:51,610 --> 01:13:47,380
disease it's basically the accepted

1364
01:13:55,689 --> 01:13:51,620
local knowledge is that he's one of us

1365
01:13:58,090 --> 01:13:55,699
you know it's it's like yeah and you

1366
01:14:00,700 --> 01:13:58,100
know it's except that it's accepted

1367
01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:00,710
backed up here you know we don't need

1368
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:04,310
convincing have you or have you or

1369
01:14:09,670 --> 01:14:06,410
anyone you know who had any had any

1370
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:09,680
encounters I had it well I had an

1371
01:14:14,170 --> 01:14:12,050
interesting talk I was up at the Montana

1372
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,180
vortex which is why I'd find equation

1373
01:14:19,209 --> 01:14:15,920
the National Park and if anybody's ever

1374
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:19,219
up that I suggest you go and I was near

1375
01:14:24,610 --> 01:14:21,770
closing time I just happened to walk in

1376
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:24,620
there and I got a chance I asked to

1377
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,710
speak with the owner or the manager and

1378
01:14:32,470 --> 01:14:29,120
I actually got the owner and he turned

1379
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:32,480
out to be a UC Davis professor and he

1380
01:14:37,689 --> 01:14:35,330
had Bob he bought this gift shop and and

1381
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:37,699
the land becoming it which had the all

1382
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:40,370
these twisted trees where the vortex was

1383
01:14:44,979 --> 01:14:42,770
located with the gravity house and so on

1384
01:14:46,330 --> 01:14:44,989
he was definitely doing study on and he

1385
01:14:47,770 --> 01:14:46,340
was saying we've been up here studying

1386
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:47,780
for a number of years he took me to the

1387
01:14:51,250 --> 01:14:49,850
front of it of the gift shop and I look

1388
01:14:53,290 --> 01:14:51,260
up in the mountains over here like here

1389
01:14:54,970 --> 01:14:53,300
look over here the hillsides is so it

1390
01:14:58,090 --> 01:14:54,980
looks like swirls like in somebody's

1391
01:15:00,280 --> 01:14:58,100
hair so the trees are sort of in little

1392
01:15:04,060 --> 01:15:00,290
like little swirls so those are all

1393
01:15:06,729 --> 01:15:04,070
those are all vortexes and I looked up

1394
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:06,739
to this he said we think it had it has

1395
01:15:13,630 --> 01:15:09,410
something to do with with the glacial

1396
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:13,640
erosion that has brought something in

1397
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:15,770
the magnetic earth you know to the bear

1398
01:15:20,050 --> 01:15:17,840
he says but the Indian Indians have

1399
01:15:21,729 --> 01:15:20,060
always known about it and he said in

1400
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:21,739
fact he was talking to local

1401
01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:24,530
they were saying that they felt Bigfoot

1402
01:15:31,509 --> 01:15:28,340
was a interdimensional beam that would

1403
01:15:33,370 --> 01:15:31,519
pop in and pop out which actually makes

1404
01:15:37,899 --> 01:15:33,380
a lot of sense because that's why we you

1405
01:15:39,660 --> 01:15:37,909
know nobody's ever picked one up and you

1406
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:39,670
know that that makes sense to me you

1407
01:15:49,209 --> 01:15:43,489
know they're they could be going through

1408
01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:49,219
a portal now back out again but not very

1409
01:15:54,129 --> 01:15:50,840
simply they're accepted neighbors up

1410
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:54,139
here yep yep I've been in some

1411
01:15:59,169 --> 01:15:57,050
neighborhoods like that you know I did a

1412
01:16:01,000 --> 01:15:59,179
Bigfoot special we're talked to a lot of

1413
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:01,010
people it was just common knowledge and

1414
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:04,070
I guess the music's rolling that means

1415
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:06,050
we're all out of time but I want to

1416
01:16:09,310 --> 01:16:08,210
thank my special guest tonight you shall

1417
01:16:11,410 --> 01:16:09,320
remain anonymous

1418
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:11,420
Emmy award-winning producer who worked

1419
01:16:17,109 --> 01:16:14,480
on the alien autopsy film thanks so much

1420
01:16:17,549 --> 01:16:17,119
for sharing what you could we appreciate

1421
01:16:20,259 --> 01:16:17,559
it

1422
01:16:23,259 --> 01:16:20,269
thanks for having me take care everybody

1423
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:23,269
be nice each other don't be hateful your

1424
01:16:39,850 --> 01:16:24,610
mother won't like it

1425
01:16:39,860 --> 01:17:06,520
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